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president obama hunts for cash in california and jokes about his underwhelming performance in the debate. >> everybody here is incredible professionals, great friends. they perform flawlessly night after night. i can't always say the same. [ laughter ] >> snl agrees. >> excuse me, governor. mr. president -- >> i'm sorry. yeah? what's up? >> governor romney just said he killed osama bin laden. would you care to respond? >> no. you two go ahead. >> will joe biden have to prove he's tougher? >> we think he'll come at me like a can bonn ball.
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>> good day. i'm andrea mitchell. mitt romney is trying to turn the momentum from his debate performance into a political tidal wave. stinging to swing state spots including today's foreign policy speech containing attacks on the president's record. during the daily fix, chris. this was mitt romney going after president obama saying he's leading from behind. i just got off a conference call the obama team put on with madeleine albright. he barely mentioned china and his mention of russia they say russia is not the greatest foreign policy challenge. when it comes to the middle east he senses vulnerability in the
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wake of benghazi. >> i think it's an attempt for romney to push the reset button. they put out a statement, a political statement before we knew about the death of ambassador chris stef ens that they could have handled it better but it doesn't mean they should leave the issue alone. they think the president is vulnerable. i thought the most quotable line from the romney speech is hope is not a strategy talking about the middle east. you used the words leading from behind. mitt romney used it at least once in the speech. the speech was an attempt to say, this is what barack obama has done. here is what i would do. it was tonal more than specific. it was more we need to be bigger, more aggressive whether it's iran or another syria.
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it was broadly philosophically we need a stronger, more muscular approach. >> on several points he's critical on iran because he would have opposed the initial attempt to open up towards iran and thinks the president didn't go far enough at all in supporting the green revolution of students in iran in june of 2009. the response from the obama team is that the iranian leaders, the reform leaders, student revolutionaries were saying, don't be too overt. it will have a backlash effect. that can be e debated. on sanctions they are criticizing the failure to go tougher though the president arguably did better than george bush in getting russia and china to permit tougher sanctions. they are focused on the sanctions the treasury department opposed. those on the central bank
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congress forced the president to accept. >> one of the critiques of mitt romney and his ability to create space on foreign policy it's been one of barack obama's great strengths. his margins in terms of who you handle more for international i affairs remains stronger than on the economy and other matters. the other critique is that mitt romney is saying i would do things differently, but there isn't a huge spelling out of how he would do things differently. you mentioned iran. going forward he had a detailed critique of how to handle it forward. that's the trouble trying to define stark lines.
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that's why he went philosophical to say i would be tougher. we have a duty as america to lead. he mentioned syria. we need to step in and support demonstrators and those things. we'll see. he clearly has an intention, an opening against obama. >> chris, while carrying a bigger stick on foreign policy he's also on the campaign trail being kinder and gentler himself in unveiling what they didn't do at the convention other than through surrogates. he's been giving speeches now three in a row where he gives example of his ministry, his mormon ministry and conduction to suffering people. chris, thank you. >> thank you. >> now i want to move on to a point of personal privilege. some viewers might be confused by the fact that the obama campaign is airing a commercial now including a video clip of me
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fact-checking governor romney after last week's debate. you should know nbc news has not granted either campaign permission to use our news material and immediately requested that the campaign refrain from using nbc news material in this and future advertisements. the obama commercial uses only a short clip from a truth squad report that, in fact, pointed out exaggerations and/or misstatements that both candidates made during the debate. just want to make that clear. mitt romney has accused the president of failure of leadership. also failure of leadership that's emboldened iran and other u.s. adversaries abroad in the middle east and north africa. >> this president's policies haven't been equal to our best examples of world leadership. nowhere is this more evident than in the middle east. i want to be very clear. the blame for the murder of our people in libya and the attacks on our embassies in other countries lies solely with those
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who carried them out. no one else. but it is our responsibility and the responsibility of the president to use america's greatest power to shape history, not to lead from behind. >> foreign policy adviser to the romney campaign joins us now. i want to talk about the speech. >> good to be with you. >> let's talk first of all about benghazi. there are hearings coming up. darryl issa is pursuing the issues of what went wrong and what the president did and what mitt romney would have done differently. let's listen to what governor romney said today. he talked about the fact that -- excuse me. i wanted to quote the fact that he talked about the attack on the consulate and he said that it was likely to same people who attacked us on september 11, tieg
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tying it to al qaeda and that he would vigorously pursue those who attacked the consulate in benghazi. we heard from the white house they are planning to target who was responsible. what would governor romney do differently than president obama is planning to do? given to the fact ta benghazi had a high number of foreign fighters based, al qaeda fighters that flooded into iraq years earlier.
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there are a lot of questions. the real question, you take a step back. president obama's foreign policy in the middle east. at one point some two dozen capitols, storming embassies. iran closer to a nuclear bomb. you were talking about the bloodshed in syria. what governor romney is saying is rather than make analysis of tactical developments we have to step back and say had the administration been an observer of events rather than a shaper of them. has their foreign policy which had us taking a back step. we talk about a pivot to asia, diminished our policy to protect our interests and those of the allies in the region. >> let me ask about syria. i wasn't sure if governor romney is saying he would have u.s. heavy weapons arms directly to
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the rebels or he would work through the saudis or others in the region who want to arm the rebels. how is he different. >> what governor romney said is if we don't reach out and find the responsible and moderate forces within the opposition movement, they would be left stranded alone and isolated -- >> hillary clinton had meeting after meeting -- you know the secretary of state has gone to meetings and met with them trying to see who are the real representatives. >> for months they made the case that there weren't people within the opposition movement for them to work with. until the movement stepped up and showed the mettle that the u.s. would not cooperate. we think that's the wrong approach. we should proactively seek out who the responsible actors r.
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it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. give them the tools through allies to have the upper hand. the extreme islamists will have the dominant position. we wanted to supply weapons, training and finances to the opposition. in some cases they have. they have a fighting shot at winning the fight. >> how do you know we are not doing that now covertly. >> well, there have been public reports that some of it's been done. i'm taking the words of the administration and the public statements. they have consistently made the case for why it would be a
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mistake to give the opposition forces these weapons. there are all sorts of consequences for it. they have stated that. they have stated they are doing more of that. governor romney says why didn't they do it from day one? with iran they talk about tough sanctions in place. the question is why did they wait for 2011, 2012 to put sanctions in place in iran? when congress pushed for sanctions -- >> on that note -- >> -- fighting them every step of the way. >> sir, you know well those were the unilateral sanctions on the central bank and the reason given by the treasury officials, right or wrong; was to do that level of sanctions would create an energy crisis at that time because there was enough other oil. >> no, andrea, come on. >> let me finish the question. i was reporting this in realtime. >> okay. fair enough. >> what about the multilateral
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sanctions this administration achieved with the help of getting russia and china on board which the bush administration was never able to achieve because there was no understanding or no agreement from the u.n. that diplomacy was given some time to work. >> it's great we got multilateral sanctions through the u.n. security council. unfortunately the price we paid for getting china and russia to buy into the sanctions was that the central bank sanctions would not be included. everyone agrees across the political divide in the united states who follow the issue closely that the central bank sanctions are the ones that had the real bite. the administration resisted efforts in congress repeatedly to get sanctions in place. you can cite, as they often do the economic implications. it's not clear to me why there were economic implications in 2009-2010 but not in # 2011-2012 but they said it would under mine the diplomatic strategy
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reaching out to the ayotollah, unconditionally trying to get unconditional talks. they were silent when there was a genuine protest movement in iran that would have put political pressure on the regime. all the moments whether it was economic or political pressure in 2009 and 2010 the administration did nothing because they believed there was a direct deal they could get done with the regime. it failed. it didn't ha. it is important that today we have sanctions in place that are having an impact. we are simply saying imagine if those sanctions and the political pressure that could be waged had been put in place earlier on. to say things are going fine just because the iranian economy is in bad shape is a sad statement of the state of affairs. the goal isn't to weaken the iranian economy but to stop the program. weaken i weakening the regime.
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>> dan -- >> closer to the nuker la program and they are. >> quick question on egypt. would governor romney have stuck with mubarak or not? >> look, he's made clear that the there was a legitimate, bonified reform movement that went from tahrir square around the region and we should have stood with the people on the streets protesting, trying to get reform in place. so he was supportive of that arab spring. >> thank you very much, dan senor, for your help today. >> good to be with you. thanks. >> i know dan is in debate camp helping paul ryan. we'll talk next about that. coming up, los angeles's mayor. what is the president's come back after the debate? and biden versus ryan. the pressure ahead of that event. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness?
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with two weeks before the final presidential debate which is going to focus on foreign policy mitt romney was clearly trying to preempt the issue today with a speech accusing the president of being weak on leadership around the world. what's the white house response? joining me is msnbc news reporter kristen welker on the road with the president. what is the response so far? i was on a call with madeleine albright responding for them saying he was vague, didn't the talk about a number of areas of the world. interestingly, they didn't deny that the president said he wanted daylight between the u.s. and israel in a meeting some
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time ago with several members of the jewish community. jewish leaders. they said that's not his position and madeleine albright said strongly she talked to people in israel who say we have never been closer with israel but it doesn't answer the real question of the friction with netanyahu which is widely reported. i know it and i'm sure you have heard it as well. >> absolutely. it doesn't answer the question about the friction between the president and prime minister netanyahu. this is something the romney campaign p seized upon and criticized the administration for. the obama campaign, the white house is trying to paint mitt romney as an amateur when it comes to these issues to nullify his arguments or any of the arguments he's making. a few things they have seized on to do that, remember his foreign trip when he traveled to england, israel and poland.
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mitt romney made gaffes that got national attention. the obama campaign picking up on that. yesterday an obama spokesperson said only chevy chase offended more people when he went to europe referencing the national lampoon movies. that was echoed today. they also criticized him for the libya situation saying he responded without knowing what was happening in libya. president obama s of course, vulnerable on the issue of libya. we have seen his policies drop. that's their tactic, to accuse mitt romney of being an amateur on the issues. >> kristen in beautiful keene, california. thank you very much. up next, the political briefing.
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>> what do you mean? i better get ready for that. yeah, i better get started. you just reminded me. it's going well. >> that was ryan in a pumpkin patch. who wins the great pumpkin battle? paul ryan picked up a 49-pounder in wisconsin with his kids. that nar lowly edges out joe biden who got a 37-pound pumpkin two weeks ago. begins with back pain and a choice. take advil, and maybe have to take up to four in a day. or take aleve, which can relieve pain all day with just two pills. good eye.
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or treat gas with these after you get it. now that's like sunblock before or sun burn cream later. oh, somebody out there's saying, now i get it! take beano before and there'll be no gas. in today's politico briefing a vice presidential debate that could actually matter. joining me now, jonathan martin. thank you very much for being with us. >> hey, andrea. >> we have both candidates practicing in debate camp. paul ryan spending time in virginia over the weekend and practicing with ted olsson, the
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former state police tolicitor ge biden practicing with chris holland. what does that tell you about how they are trying to prepare? >> van hollan is the ranking member of the budget committee. he knows ryan well. he knows ryan is a font of information. he can crunch numbers with the best of them and van holland is one of the best republicans in the country to go toe to toe with ryan in the number game. ted olsson is a brilliant courtroom lawyer capable of the rhetorical flourishes we know joe biden is famous for. both are good fits. this is going to be a year y where the vp debate could have outsize importance. there is pressure on biden to deliver after president obama's poor performance last week. also, this is a campaign where
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president obama is running as much against paul ryan's ideas as he is against mitt romney. that elevates ryan as well. >> it seems clear in choosing chris van holland they will go against the first ryan budget, the first medicare plan and also the ryan book. they will go after the budget cuts and troo to tag mitt romney with the severity, using the term relatively, of the ryan budget cuts. >> right. rom uh any down played the ryan road map. keep in mind the first ryan budget plan included privatizing social security, at least to a certain extent. that's something ryan then dropped in his subsequent budgets. it was there and he was one of the advocates of the plan to put
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it in the market. secondly the medicare issue. those entitlements, we'll ha from biden about thursday. a lot of democrats think he dropped the ball not pushing the issues against mitt romney. joe biden will read ryan's book and go after those entitlements. >> up next, as mitt romney focuses on foreign policy we'll get a reality check on the challenges abroad. [ female announcer ] most whitening strips promise full whitening results in two weeks or more. rembrandt® deeply white™ 2 hour whitening kit is proven to quickly remove surface stains and deep stains in just two hours. [ female announcer ] rembrandt® deeply white™: whiten in just 2 hours.
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spx tensions are escalating between syria and turkey after another shell landed in turkey today. the turkish military returned artillery fire for the sixth straight day. this is a major flash point. joining me now ambassador ross
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who held top jobs in three administrations most recently in the obama administration but also for the former presidents bush, one and two, i think. >> bush one, reagan -- yes. >> all the way back. >> you come with bonified credentials in foreign policy. let's talk about what this speech really indicated on syria. it seemed to me what mitt romney presented today was not to directly arm some. he was talking about working through allies. >> if you read the speech he'll work with allies to see that arms are provided. it's a passive voice.
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what i heard them saying to you is we'll be more active in terms of trying to make that happen. i think the longer we wait to do it, the harder it will be. >> you would go farther than mitt romney. >> i would. >> the administration is worried about the weapons getting into the wrong hands. >> it is a legitimate concern. what you have to do is focus heavily on identifying those you are prepared to work with, create tests for them. provide the weapons that would create less concern for us like anti-tank weapons as opposed to anti-air weapons. see how they operate, if they live up to what they say they will do, see if they are well coordinated, if they keep a counting of every weapon they have. the more they prove themselves and the more you can provide
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them. >> i have gotten hints from people, good sources, that we are doing more. do you think we are not doing enough and some of the arab allies think we are not doing enough. >> the key now isn't increasing the weight of those within the opposition who would be our natural friends. i think while there are risks, there are ways to manage risks. i would like to see more of a clearinghouse in terms of overall assistance, whether nonlethal but lethal assistance so in fact there is one address for the opposition in syria to come to. there was strong criticism. you were at the state department on iran policy when the president decided not to do more for the green revolution. that's one of mitt romney's biggest criticisms.
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why didn't the white house want to do more. >> it's a fair question. it's what people tend to forget that at the time we were getting mixed messages from those within the green movement. they were basically saying -- some were saying the last thing we need is for america to be out front on this. it makes it look like we are a creation of the americans. this is authentic. others were saying we should provide more of a leadership. there was a division on their side. the basic reason we didn't do more at that time was because of mixed messages. >> did the president drag his feet on sanctions on iran, particularly on the central bank? >> that's not the case. the critical thing here is how could we ensure e e with would get our partners internationally to join us in this? if it's only the united states doing it and others don't join us we don't have the same impact. >> congress eventually went along with it. >> it's true. because we took the time to bring our allies along when the
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congress did it the allies said, okay, we understand it. had the allies not joined us they would not have imposed a boycott on the purchase of iranian oil or you wouldn't have the same impact. it's the boycott of the iranian oil producing the big impact today. we see what's happening to their currency, the revenue they are generating. you're now seeing, in fact, more of an economic consequence within iran. that may well affect iran's behavior. i do agree the key measure is do they change behavior? it's pressure that's not sufficient. we are putting ourselves in a position where we now have the potential to change behavior. that's key. >> finally on benghazi, the hearings this week will be very, very tough. the chairman proved on fast and furious he knows how to go after a soft target. there is a soft target. in terms of security there is growing evidence they ignored
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appeals from tip lee at least to keep an airplane which may or may not have had an impact on saving the lives. clearly not. to at least keep more security there and in benghazi. >> you're in a situation that was highly fluid, unclear, uncertain. these things look a lot clearer in retrospect than they do in advance. having worked with chris stevens, he was always on the cutting edge, wanting to be able to do more and not wanting to be restricted in terms of what he could do. calls were made. obviously in the after math it looks like the approach of security should have been different. it's easier to say after than before the fact. >> it's hard to say this about someone who tragically lost his life but some say because he was so beloved in benghazi that he department pay enough attention to the militias and al qaeda
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elements. >> i think he paid attention to everything but put them in perspective. what he felt was if you look at the reality of benghazi, the bulk of the population was pro american. i think he may have placed more faith and others placed faith in the militias that were supportive of the united states than those that were against. >> dennis, if i didn't say so, you are one of our foreign policy analysts here. we are happy to have you here. >> thank uh you. >> countdown to november. how much can change in 29 days? the strategy session next. i have a cold, and i took nyquil,
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bill, you guys are so rich. what more do you need? if money could do et al? money doesn't answer the debate questions. >> money is one part of a broader picture. it's a tough political environment for the president this season. what's happening now if you look across the country, democrats uh knew it would be a close race. as we get to the end here, even though the president does have an advantage in swing states, democrats are getting that it's time to close the deal. money has been picking up for democrats. >> what about enthusiasm? the democrats have a gap in terms of the enthusiasm of young people according to the polling. >> i think money has had an impact, especially in ohio. the romney campaign hadn't been advertising in youngstown for the first couple of weeks of last month. that hurt hem in the polls.
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the romney campaign has to step up to make sure they have the resources. the enthusiasm gap really helps them. this will be a tight election. both sides will be excited. >> bill, you worked in the white house. you have done debate prep before. what happened? who didn't show up? where was barack obama last wednesday? >> i don't think anybody, including the media was ready for mitt romney. somebody willing to walk away from their bigs policy positions, talk about -- >> we watched him in the primary debates. he demolished newt gingrich. >> he did do pretty good. i don't think he won those by not telling the truth about what he was for. the republican debates you had a clearer sense of where he was. not this strange new picture. >> the biggest lie of the campaign is the lie that mitt romney will raise taxes on the middle class.
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mitt romney has no chance of raising taxes on the middle class. his republican base would kill him. the concept of raising taxes on the middle class will never happen. >> if not, something has to give. then he can't deliver tax cuts. >> you can come up with a tax reform plan. increased revenue that takes down the rates, makes it fairer everybody. it's difficult, but you can do it. >> you can't take the rates down 20% though on top of the bush tax cuts. >> romney said, i have reform principles. they are going to help grow the economy and create jobs but the idea he can raise taxes is fanciful. he'll never do it. >> if you are going to cut taxes for the wealthy as much as mitt romney wants to there is no way or he would have put forth the pro growth plan. he's ring on magic like harry
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potter will be his treasury secretary. >> he's not going to be able to cut taxes for rich people. he doesn't want to. the idea of pro growth taxes -- >> didn't he say 20% across the board? >> he did, but he also said if you take up the deductions, rich people won't get a big tax break. that's the truth. if you go through the principles and think about it, how do you design a pro growth tax policy? you have to take down the race and get rid of deductions. the numbers can add up. there is a long legislative process. >> will the president be prepared to talk about 47%, other vulnerabilities in the romney record from a democratic perspective? >> there are a lot of things that can be brought up in the debate. i suspect that in the next debate you will hear more about this. i'm not involved in what they are doing for debate prep over there. there was a lot on the table that can be discussed including
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if mitt romney has a great tax plan that can do fanciful things john is talking about, let's let mitt romney be open and honest about what the changes are to the tax code and how it would affect the middle class. if they were so great for the middle class i assume he would be happy the to talk about it. >> politico, george washington university showing obama leading romney by only one point. other tracking we are still waiting on shows narrowing of the race. >> if you look at the polls going into the debate the president was at the highest he's been and in the strongest political position at this stage in the debate. romney was going to consolidate more support and even folks in the obama campaign said romney was likely to get a bump in the polls from his performance. you know, it was always close and will continue to be close. >> i think neither side is going to get a blowout, but i think
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the debate helped give mitt romney the gap that will decrease. mitt romney showed he has the capability of being president. >> we have to go. congratulations on the baby. lots of luck. >> thank you. >> in today's amr moment we have a look at the good, the bad and the ugly from sunday's nfl match-ups. first to new orleans where drus pushed into the record books with the saints first touchdown against the chargers made it 48 straight games with at least one touchdown pass for brees putting new orleans in the win column. things didn't go well for the redskins. rg-iii was knocked out and suffered what they are calling a minor concussion. the skins lost to the falcons. griffin will be evaluated again today. we have to do something about the field goal situation. next, to connecticut city where quarterback matt cassell
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was knocked out. eric winston spoke out clearly defending his quarterback and voicing his frustration over fan reaction. >> when you cheer somebody getting knocked out, i don't care who it is. it just so happened to be matt cassel, it's sickening. it's 100% sickening. i have never, ever -- and i have been rough times on rough teams. i have never been more embarrassed of my life to play football than in that moment right there. >> amen to that. there is more playoff uh news today. baseball. the nats try to make it two in a row before heading back home the to d.c. the yankees will try to extend their early lead against the orioles. we'll be right back. at 33 years old, i was having a heart attack. now i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen.
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mitt romney out on the campaign trail is trying to
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extentd whatever advantage you gained from the first debate. >> so i'm convinced that you all had the chance to hear his answers or his nonanswers. now, of course, days later we hear his excuses. >> joining me now obama campaign co-chair in los angeles, villaraigosa. when you were watching that debate with other democrats, how concerned were you that the president was not aggressive at all in challenging mitt romney and in articulating his own view, his own vision? >> first of all, we knew that mr. romney was a great debater, but he's not running for president of the debate club. he's running for president of the united states, which means he has to be truthful. he has to say things based on facts. as you saw, yes, he speaks well, but what did he say? >> he abandoned his big, bold idea of a $5 trillion tax cut.
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he says that he's not going to raise taxes. he says he's not going to raise taxes on the middle class, and the tax policy center and i think you were in a commercial quoting the tax policy center have said that's just not true. so, yes, he speaks well. just because he says it doesn't mean it's so. >> as i said, i was very not joining that commercial. we protested the fact of that commercial, and that actually came from a report where we criticized both candidates. the president made comments about social security and simpson-boles and a number of other things that didn't add up either. both sides made misstatements in the debate. doesn't the president need a different game plan going into the next debate? >> i don't accept that the postulation that both sides misrepresented the facts. mr. romney misrepresented the facts on his medicare plan and on the president's.
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let me say, yes, he has to be aggressive in defining who mitt romney is. he'll use his own words. mr. 47%. i think, i think, lay out his vision in contradistinction to romney's and do so in a more aggressive way. >> i want to ask you about the enthusiasm gap particularly among latino voters. we see in our polling while the president has a huge edge in the latino vote, there's a real drop-off since 2008 when then it was 77% enthusiasm, now it is 59% in terms of hispanic americans. what you going to do to make sure people turn out? >> nare sending me all over the country. i'll be at jefferson-jackson dinner in iowa, i've been it to florida. we have surrogates all across
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the country. we have a grassroots campaign that has been talked about as the most aggressive, the most focused on social media and on a broad cross-section of speaking to voters. we're going to knock on doors and talk to voters, and we're going to get that vote out. i agree that our work is cut out for us. it's cut out for them, too. that's what elections are all about. >> thank you very much, mr. mayor. i know you're out there at the campaign event where the president is going to be speaking later. you just gave your speech, and thanks for joining us today. >> thank you, andrea. sorry we were a little late, but they had me up later than i thought. thank you. >> that's what the campaign trail is all about. that does it for us for this edition of andr"andrea mitchell report reports". tamron has a look at what's next on "news nation." >> great hour. thank you very much. in our next hour we're awaiting the results from battleground state polls conducted over the weekend, but what are the signs
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today that the vote has changed since last week's debate. we'll dig into the information out there. mitt romney's camp ssd to have mob competent while the obama camp has a greater sense of urgency. talking foreign policy, and within the hour the president focusing on getting latino voters motivated to turn out. we look at the strategies this monday and the next 29 days. we know political brawling goes on in washington, but what the help happened in this wedding brawl in philly? authorities are threatening to arrest even more people, one person was just charged.
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